Note the present locations of the rising and setting sun. Compare them to this time last year.....
Jack C.
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Any Amateur Astronomers Out There?
by cofty ini have recently revived my interest in the night sky.
there are a lot of great sights you can identify with just a pair of binoculars.
i am currently relearning how to navigate my way round all the constellations and find some of the best objects.. i live out in the country so we get almost total darkness right outside my front door.
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How was Adam Perfect? He sinned....Duh
by DS211 inwell an elder brought this up with me and said he didnt understand how adam sinned if he was perfect.
i said i dont see how he couldve sin ed if he was perfect....but he had free will to choose.
i then told him that i thought if god wanted us to obey him the worst thing he could do was create us to have free will.....a side thought i had was:.
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Jack C.
Adam was perfect all right, the perfect patsy.....
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Something to think about...
by Jack C. inhas anyone ever seriously considered the possibility that the bible could be misunderstood due to incorrectly interpriting which person (first, second or third) it is written in?.
for example 'in the beginning the elohim created the heavens and earth.
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Jack C.
Has anyone ever seriously considered the possibility that the Bible could be misunderstood due to incorrectly interpriting which person (first, second or third) it is written in?
For example 'In the beginning the Elohim created the heavens and earth." (Third person)
'In the beginning We created the heavens and earth." (First Person)
Consider the example of Moses at the burning bush asking God for his name. Could the reply "I AM" refer to Moses himself? Alternate writing styles with varying usages of first, second or third persons as the primary subject have changed over the centuries.
It doesn't take much reading to discover that if this is indeed true that Christ = US. This can really make sense if you think about it.
Opinions?
Jack
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Babylon the Great Falling
by Jack C. inthis looks like a plan for ex witnesses to follow:.
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http://itccs.org/.
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Jack C.
Mr or Mrs Morbid,
Where were you in 1997 when one of the first predcessors of this board (Hourglass 2) was formed? Did you participate? I don't have time to sit around all day and post snide remarks on only one board or discussion group like you apparently do. Find something constructive to communicate about or just F-O and drown in your own ignorance...
Jack Chapman
Anderson, SC
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Jack C.
We can always rely on Mark Twain for a bit of wisdom concerning religion and politics:
" In religion and politics, peoples beliefs and convictions are almost in every case gotten at second hand and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue, but have taken them at second hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."
Jack
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Babylon Falling, Take Two...
by Jack C. initccs.org catholic church faces disruption and banishment as irish cardinal set to resign 0posted on may 04, 2012 by itccsa communique from itccs international.
brussels and dublin:the roman catholic church faces permanent disruption and banishment in at least five countries if it does not comply with ten non-negotiable measures by september 15, 2012, according to a global coalition of survivors of church rape and torture.. the list of measures was issued today at a meeting in dublin, ireland between archbishop dermot martin and representatives of anti catholic church activists worldwide (accaw), magdalene laundry survivors, and the international tribunal into crimes of church and state ireland (itccs).. itccs in dublin, irelandthe measures demanded of the catholic church include the defrocking of all child raping priests, the licensing of all other clergy as public servants, the return of the remains of all who died under church care, the annulment of tax exemptions and other church privileges, and the return of all of the churchs wealth generated by the exploitation of children.. the full statement outlining these measures is reproduced below, including an audio recording of the statement.. issued on the eve of the impending resignation of the head of the catholic church in ireland, cardinal sean brady, for his protection of child raping priests, the statement was delivered by john deegan of accaw and itccs ireland members gerry odonovan and dave obrien, who confronted archbishop martin with the demands.. the ten point statement was issued by the international tribunal into crimes of church and state, an umbrella organization of over fifty organizations in the united states, canada, ireland, england and australia.. pope benedict and his bishops have until midnight on september 15 to start complying with these measures said itccs secretary kevin annett today.. after that, we will begin actions to halt the normal operation of the roman catholic church around the world, and we will seek indictments against pope benedict and other vatican officials for crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.. the accaw, itccs and other groups have staged high profile occupations of catholic churches during their regular services, and plan to escalate these actions into a permanent campaign of non-violent disruption and civil disobedience aimed at the roman catholic church ... until the churchs reign of terror over children is ended.. issued may 4, 2012 by itccs international brussels.
information: [email protected] or 250-591-4573 (canada) and [email protected] or [email protected] (ireland).
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Jack C.
Then perhaps you shoudn't make threats you can't fullfil.
No, I don't know you but I know your type...
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Sound Familiar?
by Jack C. inhow the watchtower society brainwashes its members..... .
brainwashing & mind control techniques.
the term "brainwashing" came into common language through the work of american journalist edward hunter who was an expert of oriental issues; the very word being the direct translation of chinese "hsi-nao".
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Jack C.
How the Watchtower society brainwashes its members....
brainwashing & mind control techniques
The term "brainwashing" came into common language through the work of American journalist Edward Hunter who was an expert of Oriental issues; the very word being the direct translation of Chinese "hsi-nao". By "hsi-nao" the Chinese meant certain techniques in dealing with adversaries and/or training of officials. To the Western usage the term "brainwashing" spread in the 1950s through several publications depicting the treatment of American soldiers at Chinese prison camp during the Korean War 1950-1953.Below is a list of the usual brainwashing/mind control techniques used in schools, hospitals, army, religious cults, totalitarian states; with political prisoners and dissidents, mentally insane, some versions of psychoterapy, etc., etc. "Indoctrination" is a more slight and more subliminal form of brainwashing (e.g. commercials). However, these concepts are nothing short of controversial and open to various interpretations, which should be kept in mind while perusing the Web sources below.
Judging by the extremely diverse material on the subject found from the Net, the funny thing about the term "brainwashing" itself is that it can be handily appropriated by just anyone -- whether they were right-wing or left-wing, religious people or anti-cultists -- to support their claims of their opponents (supposedly using these "brainwashing" techniques) being miserable, no-good wretches (see: propaganda). I became not a little bit cynical after wallowing through tons of Web pages by religious bigots, downright wackos (most usual was the claim of government having secret mind control experiments with microwaves) and so-called (American right-wing fascist/racist) patriots, but tried to put here those that I found useful or at least interesting myself. (In other words, after browsing an otherwise decent and respectable-looking page for a while you might start smelling a rat.) I can't guarantee the information found from some of these pages is totally unprejudiced or scientifically verifiable under skeptical observation. So, it's up to you to decide whether to believe them or not.
1) HYPNOSIS - Inducing a high state of suggestibility, often thinly disguised as relaxation or meditation.a. Repetitive Music (most likely with a beat close to the human heart 45 to 72 beats per minute). Most likely used during "study sessions" as the teacher will say the music helps you relax and concentrate better!
b. Voice Roll -- A "voice roll" is a patterned, paced style used by hypnotists when inducing a trance. It is also used by many lawyers, several of whom are highly trained hypnotists, when they desire to entrench a point firmly in the minds of the jurors. A voice roll can sound as if the speaker were talking to the beat of a metronome or it may sound as though he were emphasizing every word in a monotonous, patterned style. The words will usually be delivered at the rate of 45 to 60 beats per minute, maximizing the hypnotic effect.
c. Room "Feel" - The way a room feels is essential to hypnotizing unknowing subjects. It needs special lighting, florescent lights are best because they aren't too dim, but aren't too harsh. Also, Room Temp helps a bit, usually a little cooler than normal room temperature. You need to have the unknowing subjects very relaxed, perhaps even close to falling asleep.
2) PEER GROUP PRESSURE - Suppressing doubt and resistance to new ideas by exploiting the need to belong.
3) "LOVE BOMBING" - Creating a sense of family through physical touch, thought & feeling sharing and emotional bonding.
4) REJECTION OF OLD VALUES - Accelerating acceptance of new lifestyle by constantly denouncing former beliefs and values.
5) CONFUSING DOCTRINE - Encouraging blind acceptance and rejection of logic through complex lectures on an incomprehensible doctrine.
6) METACOMMUNICATION - Implanting subliminal messages by stressing certain key words or phrases in long, confusing lectures.
7) REMOVAL OF PRIVACY - Achieving loss of ability to evaluate logically by preventing private contemplation.
8) DISINHIBITION - Encouraging child-like obedience by orchestrating child-like behaviour
9) UNCOMPROMISING RULES - Inducing regression and disorientation by soliciting agreement to seemingly simple rules which regulate mealtimes, bathroom breaks and use of medications.
10) VERBAL ABUSE - Desensitizing through bombardment with foul and abusive language. (Physical abuse, such as torture, is the more extreme form of this.)
11) SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND FATIGUE - Creating disorientation and vulnerability by prolonging mental an physical activity and withholding adequate rest and sleep.
12) DRESS CODES - Removing individuality by demanding conformity to the group dress code.
13) CHANTING OR SINGING - Eliminating non-cult ideas through group repetition of mind-narrowing chants or phrases.
14) CONFESSION - Encouraging the destruction of individual ego through confession of personal weaknesses and innermost feelings of doubt.
15) FINANCIAL COMMITMENT - Achieving increased dependence on the group by 'burning bridges' to the past, through the donation of assets.
16) FINGER POINTING - Creating a false sense of righteousness by pointing to the shortcomings of the outside world.
17) ISOLATION - Inducing loss of reality by physical separation from family, friends, society and rational references.
18) CONTROLLED APPROVAL - Maintaining vulnerability and confusion by alternately rewarding and punishing similar actions.
19) CHANGE OF DIET - Creating disorientation and increased susceptibility to emotional arousal by depriving the nervous system of necessary nutrients through the use of special diets and/or fasting. Also applying drugs for these purposes fall in this category.
20) GAMES - Inducing dependence on the group by introducing games with obscure rules.
21) NO QUESTIONS - Accomplishing automatic acceptance of beliefs by discouraging questions.
22) GUILT - Reinforcing the need for 'salvation' by exaggerating the sins of the former lifestyles.
23) FEAR - Maintaining loyalty and obedience to the group by threatening soul, life or limb for the slightest 'negative' thought, word or deed.
Three Principles of Re-Education
1) REPETITION - Going through the same subject over and over again until it is known by heart.
2) ACTIVITY PEDAGOGICS - The subjects are never left alone nor give any private time of their own, they are always in activity.
3) CRITICISM AND SELF-CRITICISM - The subjects are supposed to feel uncertain; under the constant threat of being humiliated and despised.
In the Korean War the "criticism and self-criticism" sessions held for the American prisoners of war by the Chinese clearly had deeper effects than the POWs could initially comprehend, and when they found out, it was too late. In the beginning many prisoners found this whole procedure just childish, and were inclined to take it merely as something of a joke, but without them being able to realize it, the situation of being subjected constantly to the criticism of one's comrades became humiliating.
That a grown-up person should publicly discuss one's habits or inclinations -- some of them of very private nature -- confess one's faults, receive strong criticism for insignificant misdemeanours, will not be indeed in the course of time anything to be considered childish or playful: it simply will be experienced as insulting. This continuing feeling of humiliation became crucial in the gradual psychological break-up of the prisoners' personalities. Furthermore, this ongoing process of "criticism and self-criticism" was bound to cause mistrust for one's own comrades: it was the tactics of "divide and conquer" as the ancient Romans would have called it. ("Criticism and self-criticism" were also widely applied during China's "Cultural Revolution" starting in 1966, as a method of "re-education".)
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Failed Doomsday and Apocalyptic Predictions
by leavingwt in.
you might enjoy the graphic presented at the link below, highlighting the many failures of doomsday prophets.
http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/failed-doomsday-and-apocalyptic-predictions/.
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Jack C.
The predictions were to late. Armageddon ended in 1945. It takes time to adapt to a New World.
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Babylon the Great Falling
by Jack C. inthis looks like a plan for ex witnesses to follow:.
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http://itccs.org/.
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Jack C.
an obvious troll...... How droll.
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Babylon Falling, Take Two...
by Jack C. initccs.org catholic church faces disruption and banishment as irish cardinal set to resign 0posted on may 04, 2012 by itccsa communique from itccs international.
brussels and dublin:the roman catholic church faces permanent disruption and banishment in at least five countries if it does not comply with ten non-negotiable measures by september 15, 2012, according to a global coalition of survivors of church rape and torture.. the list of measures was issued today at a meeting in dublin, ireland between archbishop dermot martin and representatives of anti catholic church activists worldwide (accaw), magdalene laundry survivors, and the international tribunal into crimes of church and state ireland (itccs).. itccs in dublin, irelandthe measures demanded of the catholic church include the defrocking of all child raping priests, the licensing of all other clergy as public servants, the return of the remains of all who died under church care, the annulment of tax exemptions and other church privileges, and the return of all of the churchs wealth generated by the exploitation of children.. the full statement outlining these measures is reproduced below, including an audio recording of the statement.. issued on the eve of the impending resignation of the head of the catholic church in ireland, cardinal sean brady, for his protection of child raping priests, the statement was delivered by john deegan of accaw and itccs ireland members gerry odonovan and dave obrien, who confronted archbishop martin with the demands.. the ten point statement was issued by the international tribunal into crimes of church and state, an umbrella organization of over fifty organizations in the united states, canada, ireland, england and australia.. pope benedict and his bishops have until midnight on september 15 to start complying with these measures said itccs secretary kevin annett today.. after that, we will begin actions to halt the normal operation of the roman catholic church around the world, and we will seek indictments against pope benedict and other vatican officials for crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.. the accaw, itccs and other groups have staged high profile occupations of catholic churches during their regular services, and plan to escalate these actions into a permanent campaign of non-violent disruption and civil disobedience aimed at the roman catholic church ... until the churchs reign of terror over children is ended.. issued may 4, 2012 by itccs international brussels.
information: [email protected] or 250-591-4573 (canada) and [email protected] or [email protected] (ireland).
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Jack C.
1) If you don't know you're not a frickin' ex_JW
2) Boot Away mrs jones...
The term "brainwashing" came into common language through the work of American journalist Edward Hunter who was an expert of Oriental issues; the very word being the direct translation of Chinese "hsi-nao". By "hsi-nao" the Chinese meant certain techniques in dealing with adversaries and/or training of officials. To the Western usage the term "brainwashing" spread in the 1950s through several publications depicting the treatment of American soldiers at Chinese prison camp during the Korean War 1950-1953.
1) HYPNOSIS - Inducing a high state of suggestibility, often thinly disguised as relaxation or meditation.